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PatZ
September 16, 2007, 7:46pm Report to Moderator
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For your primary this Tuesday.

Apparently there is some poop going on with the Conservative Party that isn't showing good "conservatism." You've got an Opportunity to Ballot for write in candidates for Conservative Party members and there's been flyers and mailers going out that amount to smear and mis-education of the voters.

I hardly think the New York State Conservative Party is backing these tactics and what it amounts to is self-serving politics.

I put them up on my board on this thread: http://www.schenectadyny.info/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl?m-1189245781/

But the blatent outright MIS-EDUCATION is this mailer with the Conservative Party seal at the top and NO OFFICER NAMES AND INFORMATION.

YOU NEED TO WRITE IN BOTH FIRST AND LAST NAME OF THE CANDIDATE. If you don't then the write in vote will be thrown out. And trust me, it'll be tossed.



SOMEONE OR TWO APPARENTLY SENT OUT THIS MAILER TO PEOPLE WHO SIGNED THE WRITE-IN PETITION. THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BALLOT PETITION IS PUBLIC RECORDS AND CAN BE OBTAINED BY ANYONE!

My first inclination is that the Democrats who the Conservative Party for Rotterdam endorsed are behind this. Be very careful people! You have the right to WRITE-IN a candidate of your choice, if your party chooses people you do not want!

So what's up with your Conservative Party in Rotterdam??? Endorsing Democrats???

What's up with that? And I thought Schenectady's Conservative Party was bad, you know, in the pockets of the unions. Does real "conservatism" exist anywhere in Schenectady County???
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This is information that we need to read.
Rotterdam DOES know what is wrong with it's Conservative Party.
It is called the RPD and the PBA!
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That may be the problem, but people in the conservative party for genuine reasons may be getting hurt by this and should know.

A write in vote means that both the first and last name of the potential candidate should be written in the slot.

By law, it doesn't have to be perfect. As long as the "intent" of the voter is apparent. The reason you need both first and last names is because there are many people with the same last name. But if people are steered in a direction purposely so that the voter's write in becomes invalid...

that's very bad politics.

However, I do not know how the Rotterdam Conservative party is comprised. And I cannot say that its cops or pba or not. The only names I see are the Democrats endorsed and I've got experience in that area. With Democrats.

So, educate the voters so they know how to do this properly. A write in vote is not a wasted vote if its done properly. It is a vote by the voter, not the party.
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The dems are just as dirty as they have been for decades. This time they have sucked in the conservs as well. Thanks to the RPD and the PBA. Shame on the Rotterdam conserv's for letting the party be taken over by the cops/union. Ya see, things haven't changed in Rotterdam at all!! First it was the dems that were the crooked, backroom deal making, self serving dictatorship party....now we must include the conservs. Which only leaves.....you got it, THE REPS!!


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But the blatent outright MIS-EDUCATION is this mailer with the Conservative Party seal at the top and NO OFFICER NAMES AND INFORMATION.


This must be why Ms.Savage doesn't want the folks receiving "services" edumacated......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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The cops have already corrupted the Rotterdam Conservs! Bet you'll even find a cop or two on the executive committee!! The Rotterdam conserv's have become nothing short of a special interest group!


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Bumble,

Not so fast...

I would suggest that there are many rank and file members of the Conservative Party, like myself, who hold traditional conservative values on the issues that face our county, our state, and our nation.  The endorsements by the Schenectady County Conservative Party leadership of endorsed Democrats is a concern to many in the party.  Hence, the write in ballot campaign for Carolina M. Lazzari and Angelo L. Santabarbara.

I am including below a Letter to the Editor that I wrote and sent to the Daily Gazette.  As I am unsure that it will make it to press, I include it here as evidence that the Conservative party is one of conservative ideology and not a special interest party.

In campaigning for Lazzari and Santabarbara, I have spoken with many rank and file members as well as many on the Committee of the Schenectady County Conservative Party who do not agree with the party endorsements and who have pledged their support to the endorsed Republican candidates.

Tuesday's primary election results will be a harbinger of the future of the Schenectady County Conservative party.

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July 15, 2007

Lazzari & Santabarbara the “c”onservative Choice for Schenectady County Legislature

To the Editor:

Last Friday, I received in the mail a bulletin signed by the Chairperson of the Schenectady County Conservative Party, Randy Pascarella, informing the members of our party that “outsiders” were attempting to influence the results of the September 18th Conservative Party primary election for candidates vying to represent District IV in the Schenectady County Legislature.  As a registered voter of the Conservative Party for the past 29 years and a long time resident who was born and raised in Schenectady county, I take offense at Mr. Pascarella’s characterization of the many rank and file members of the party who are supporting the write-in candidacies of Carolina M. Lazzari and Angelo L. Santabarbara, the two endorsed Republicans in the November race, as “outsiders”.  

It is my assessment that Mrs Lazzari and Mr. Santabarbara are the candidates whose positions on the important issues facing Schenectady County are most in accordance with
traditional conservative values that include lower taxes, fiscal restraint, smaller and less intrusive government, and fewer “nanny” programs.

Further, it is my understanding that a primary election is an opportunity for members of a political party to select the candidates who they wish to represent their party in the general election.  The write-in candidacies of Mrs. Lazzari and Mr. Santabarbara fully comply with election law that requires that they obtain the necessary number of signatures of registered party members on a qualifying petition.

As an incumbent, Mrs. Lazzari has been an advocate for the residents of District IV.  She has taken positions on issues that demonstrate independent thought and courage of conviction.  Mr. Santabara, in his first run for political office, has a platform that encompasses traditional conservative values.  With their election to the Schenectady County Legislature in November, the balance of power and influence between the majority Democratic party and the minority Republican party will shift slightly.  It is my hope and anticipation that this will result in meaningful accomplishment achieved by the Legislators through constructive conflict, respectful debate, and bipartisan support.

The freedom to vote for those who we believe will best represent their constituencies is the basis of our democratic form of government.  The Conservative party, my Conservative party has an ideological umbrella and political platform large enough to accommodate those with diversity of opinion.

I encourage the members of the Schenectady County Conservative party to decide for themselves who the true conservatives are who are running for County Legislature.  For my part, I will be writing in the names of Carolina M. Lazzari and Angelo L. Santabarbara.

Bradley E. Littlefield
Delanson, NY
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yeah Z.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I was not suggesting that ALL conservs where a special interest group. However, I was more than suggesting that Rotterdam conserv's are a special interest group.


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I was not suggesting that ALL conservs where a special interest group. However, I was more than suggesting that Rotterdam conserv's are a special interest group.  


Bumble,

Distinction noted and appreciated.  I believe that the traditional conservative is a sleeping dog that has recently been awakened.

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I hope the conservs have awakened with wings like an eagle......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I agree with you. I think that the conserv's along with many others with different party affilliations are waking up to the corruptness that has infultrated our political system. I have always held the conserv's to a high standard and with respect. I'm sorry to say, that I don't feel that way with the conservs in Rotterdam. And this didn't just happen overnight. This was a very well thought out plan ever since the reps took control of the board. Believe me when I tell you, law enforcement is behind it all. They have been and are continuing to get all of their ducks in a row and the conservs are allowing themselves to be the ducks. Bill Cooke(d) is another brain teaser! What could they possibly be thinking?
And like I said before...I'd bet there is a cop or two on the ROTTERDDAM conserv's executive board!


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I have nothing but respect and admiration for those in law enforcement who place their lives on the line to protect the safety of our citizens.  I have family members and close friends who are police officers and NYS Troopers.  I believe that they are underpaid for the work that they do in very difficult and trying situations.  That said, I don't believe that the police union, PBA or any other special interest group should leverage their influence to assume control of a political party to promote their self-interests.  We must all place place public good before personal interests for the betterment of society.
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This is how the web was weaved:
Walmart wanted the land where the little league field is.(Randy Pasquarella heads the league)
The landowners were pi**ed since the rep. majority faught along with the residents against it.
Basically the reps won...no walmart.
The reps wanted to form a police commission. The cops were pi**ed.(a major player in this fiasco)
The little league was screaming for the town to purchase new land for them.
Hence comes in Judy turn coat Dagastino(d) (sons a Rotterdam cop)
Judy and her followers purchase land for the little league.
Randy becomes the Rotterdam Chair for the conserv party.
Every cop, friend of a cop, family member of a cop changes party affiliation to concervative.(still pi**sed at the reps for the attempted formation of a police commission.)
In comes Bill Cooke(d) running against Tomasone, endorsed by the conserves in hopes he will be elected so he can negotiate the police contract.

This is a basic overview of the inner workings of the democratic/concervative brotherhood.
So in essence, the dems bought themselves some concervative votes!


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This is starting to look like incest......yuck.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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