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gadfly
November 3, 2007, 1:11am Report to Moderator
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Angelo Santabarabara caught Tony Jasenski red-handed taking Angelo and Carolina's lawnsigns TWICE tonight! He was driving a white Ford SUV and had a passenger with him.
First Angelo caught him on Curry Road near D'Aurizio's pizza. He was taking Angelo's signs and planting HIS up and down Curry Road. Considering the late night hour I doubt he asked for permission!
THEN he was caught less than an hour later AGAIN on Crane Street. This time Angelo pulled right up to the vehicle he was driving, POSITIVELY IDENTIFIED Jasenski AGAIN, and Tony RACED into the vehicle and took off like a bat out of hell! Angelo followed him, attempting to confront Jasenski about his THEFT of Lazzari/Santabarbara signs, but Jasenski, being the former police officer that he is, was able to  lose Angelo.
Angelo is still out looking for him, and a GANG of us are going out to hunt down that desperate, pathetic thief!
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The way ro repay Tony Jasenski for his unethical behavior is to vote Republican on November 6th. Vote for Lazzari and Santabarbara for Countyu Council.
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Although not acceptable, removing poliical lawn signs have been a juvenile practice for years. What I do find disturbing is if this allegation is true, about Mr. Jasenski actually stealing his opponents political signs and coupled with the misleading campaigning founded by the FCP committee and the sensoring of a video tape of the Meet The Candidates on channel 16 causes me concern.

My question being is why are the Democrats resorting to illegal/unethical tactics in this campaign? I know that we, as residents, can cast our votes accordingly, but what I am assuming here is that in political campaigning it is basically a free for all. That any party can literally lie, steal and cheat and still be able to campaign for an elected position to represent the people with no consequences.

Maybe it is time that new stricter campaign laws be implemented holding each candidate/party responsible carrying stonger penalties.
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Angelo Santabarabara caught Tony Jasenski red-handed taking Angelo and Carolina's lawnsigns TWICE tonight! He was driving a white Ford SUV and had a passenger with him.
First Angelo caught him on Curry Road near D'Aurizio's pizza. He was taking Angelo's signs and planting HIS up and down Curry Road. Considering the late night hour I doubt he asked for permission!
THEN he was caught less than an hour later AGAIN on Crane Street. This time Angelo pulled right up to the vehicle he was driving, POSITIVELY IDENTIFIED Jasenski AGAIN, and Tony RACED into the vehicle and took off like a bat out of hell! Angelo followed him, attempting to confront Jasenski about his THEFT of Lazzari/Santabarbara signs, but Jasenski, being the former police officer that he is, was able to  lose Angelo.
Angelo is still out looking for him, and a GANG of us are going out to hunt down that desperate, pathetic thief!


Is Angelo some sort of vigilante??  Why didn't he call the police and file a report?  If Angelo positively identified Jasenski, he surely could have gotten his licence plate number. Angelo could have caught Jasenski with stolen property in his vehicle.  That would have been a real story.  

Gadfly, spreading hearsay on a message board is just as bad as the democrats sending out misleading and false political flyers about their opponents.

Just when you thought local politics couldn't sink any lower. It does.


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I have noticed Lazzari/Santabarbra signs missing in D'burg.  I have noticed NEW Godlewski/Jasenski signs in the same areas.  I didn't want to think they were removing them and convinced myself it was the wind.
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It hasn't been that windy recently so someone is up to no good.
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Is Angelo some sort of vigilante??  Why didn't he call the police and file a report?  If Angelo positively identified Jasenski, he surely could have gotten his licence plate number. Angelo could have caught Jasenski with stolen property in his vehicle.  That would have been a real story.  

Gadfly, spreading hearsay on a message board is just as bad as the democrats sending out misleading and false political flyers about their opponents.

Just when you thought local politics couldn't sink any lower. It does.


To answer your questions Cicero the apparent Kratz Kisser:
No- Angelo is not a vigilante. He was on his way to the New Karner Road post office last night, via Curry Road, to drop off some post cards to be mailed to voters when he saw Tony taking the signs. While in route returning from the post office, Angelo received a call from a friend asking for a ride home, which required traveling up Crane Street. It was then that Angelo and his passenger saw Tony on Crane Street taking down the Lazzari/Santabarbara signs again. This time Angelo drove right up to Tony, headlights glaring directly on him, when Tony raced into the SUV and sped away. Angelo did attempt to follow him and confront him, but Tony was able to eventually give hime the slip. That was right around 11:30 PM. At this point Jasenski KNOWS he was caught, and by whom. We all continued to look for him, now armed with video cameras, but he literally disappeared.
And who should Angelo have called? The Rotterdam Police? To report their former Chief to a department supporting his candidacy? And yes, Angelo COULD have caught Tony with stolen property in his vehicle, if Tony hadn't led Angelo on a high-speed chase running from the scene until he lost him. Furthermore, witnessing Tony take those signs TWICE was enough to constitute theft. It is not hearsay, these are the EYEWITNESS reports of TWO individuals.
And Angelo DID get the license plate number: AEM 1692. Meanwhile, I passed Tony's house twice while we were looking for him, and only his white van was in the driveway. When I went by again at 1:32 AM, there was Tony just walking into his house...and there was the FORD SUV (Expedition) in the driveway, license plate number AEM 1692.
Since Jasenski was last seen around 11:30 on Crane Street taking his opponents' lawn signs, this would have given him a FULL TWO HOURS to dispose of the stolen property - which I'm sure he did, because I looked in the SUV and they were not there (as with many newer vehicles, the dome light inside the SUV conveniently remained on after Tony turned off the ignition just seconds before).
You are right about one thing - politics sinking lower than ever. I don't see how it could get any lower than an obviously desperate candidate, as is apparent in the numerous and outrageously false claims advanced in his campaign literature,  stealing his opponents' lawn signs in the dark of night.
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I have seen some folks lurking about in a small red car with election signs on the doors---I will leave that to our imaginations(I dont know who they are)....hearsay does not bode well in a small town(especially in Rotterdam).....even if it is true, in which case it is the responsibility of the person toward which the transgression happened to 'bring it to light'....and such a childish act as this certainly is not worthy of Mr. Santabarbra's breath or a second look.......he has bigger fish to fry and should be getting ready for the party and preparing for his post as I am sure he is......along with Ms.Lazzari


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Well, having two eyewitnesses and getting the plate number, I still would have called both the RPD and the State Police. Perhaps the RPD wouldn't have responded, but there would have been a record of the call. Expecially if you called from a cell phone.

I don't doubt that this happened, I just think there was a lack of judgement since a call to law enforcement would have made one hell of a story. Probably front page. It was an opportunity looking ya's right in the head lights!!


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To answer your questions Cicero the apparent Kratz Kisser:


Gadfly, for your information, my ideology is furthest from those of the so call "Kratz".  I know many of your kind gadfly. Seeing everything through the rose color glasses of political bias.  Anyone questioning the validity of your statement accusing Jasenski to be a thief must be affiliated with those in the political party of the accused.  I'm not one easily influenced by an unsubstantiated accusation.  Especially one's made by someone who goes by the name "Gadfly".  The name itself figuratively means a person who provokes people into action through criticism. You're obviously a political operative for the Santabarbara/Lazzari camp.  Mr. Santabarbara is an smart educated man.  He should have used the proper channels and reported to the police that a crime was in progress.  Call 911, those message's are recorded.  Instead he went to get a video camera as to catch him in the act, so he could score some political points against his opponent.  If this type of sh** was happening in another town it would almost be funny.  But since it is in my town, it's embarassing.  These are the two CLOWNS I have to chose between on Tuesday.  We're screwed!


The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is apt to spread discontent among those who are. ~ H.L. Mencken
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. Meanwhile, I passed Tony's house twice while we were looking for him, and only his white van was in the driveway. When I went by again at 1:32 AM, there was Tony just walking into his house...and there was the FORD SUV (Expedition) in the driveway, license plate number AEM 1692.
Since Jasenski was last seen around 11:30 on Crane Street taking his opponents' lawn signs, this would have given him a FULL TWO HOURS to dispose of the stolen property - which I'm sure he did, because I looked in the SUV and they were not there (as with many newer vehicles, the dome light inside the SUV conveniently remained on after Tony turned off the ignition just seconds before).


Is this what it takes to be part of a political campaign?  Driving by your opponents house at 1:30 in the morning with video camera's?? You guys should have brought eggs and toilet paper and egged his house and threw TP in his tree's.  That seems to be the level of political discourse we have reached here in Rotterdam...........Ridiculous



The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is apt to spread discontent among those who are. ~ H.L. Mencken
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BTW Cicero sometimes folks like to 'plant' bad seeds ,as such the picture Gadfly has planted....but, not to get all flustered....truth will prevail and the issues at hand will still exist----the signs need to be picked up after the election anyhow....let's see if any party will pick theirs up the day of election(like at 7am)....be confident and move forward.....remember...there is no truth in advertising......


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I'm not one easily influenced by an unsubstantiated accusation.


I wouldn't be either...but this is not unsubstantiated. It is not an assumption, although there HAS been SUSPICION throughout this campaign with regard to the widespread disappearance of Lazzari/Santabarbara signs, especially since everywhere they disappear, Jasenski/Godlewski signs suddenly sprout! But no one has ever accused Jasenski of anything until he was caught... and I believe Angelo. Unlike Tony, I have no reason not to - especially since the plate number he gave me matched that of the vehicle in Tony's driveway when he came home.
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BTW Cicero sometimes folks like to 'plant' bad seeds ,as such the picture Gadfly has planted....but, not to get all flustered....truth will prevail and the issues at hand will still exist----the signs need to be picked up after the election anyhow....let's see if any party will pick theirs up the day of election(like at 7am)....be confident and move forward.....remember...there is no truth in advertising......


You're absolutely right Senders - sooner or later the truth WILL prevail. And Tony Jasenski planted his own "bad seeds". Also, we always try to get our signs down as soon as possible after an election and will do so after this one - but not at 7am on the DAY of the election! Would the next day be acceptable?????
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I wouldn't be either...but this is not unsubstantiated. It is not an assumption, although there HAS been SUSPICION throughout this campaign with regard to the widespread disappearance of Lazzari/Santabarbara signs, especially since everywhere they disappear, Jasenski/Godlewski signs suddenly sprout! But no one has ever accused Jasenski of anything until he was caught... and I believe Angelo. Unlike Tony, I have no reason not to - especially since the plate number he gave me matched that of the vehicle in Tony's driveway when he came home.


You're accusing somebody of theft Gadfly.  And instead of reporting it to the authorities, you are posting it on a message board.  I understand that Jasenski was the former chief of police in Rotterdam.  The call still should have been made.  And if you thought nothing would be done you should have recorded the call.  You missed the step in reporting the crime. Now it's too late.  It just looks like a political ploy to smear Jasenski.  


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