Not the day after....the day of the election shows confidence with a straight forward attitude......sometimes the guy/gal with the least 'advertising' wins just because the 'junk' of politics has been left behind......it's alot cleaner....but, then again the sheeple will be sheeple.....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Is this what it takes to be part of a political campaign? Driving by your opponents house at 1:30 in the morning with video camera's?? You guys should have brought eggs and toilet paper and egged his house and threw TP in his tree's. That seems to be the level of political discourse we have reached here in Rotterdam...........Ridiculous
Unfortunately, yes, it is. That is, when you WITNESS your opponents sinking to this level. Keep in mind that these lawn signs cost the candidates a pretty good chunk of change, and serve a crucial purpose in an election campaign(granted, some overdo it-especially in Rotterdam!) I can tell you that SEVERAL have attempted to catch political sign thieves, vandals, etc. for that reason over the years - but seldom are lucky enough to catch them. I suppose that could be why Angelo caught Tony - because he wasn't LOOKING to catch him. FYI, I am not one of those who had a video camera. Those who did, did it in an attempt to catch him again, as he was obviously on a roll! It's unlikely that Tony noticed Angelo the first time on Curry Road - I think he would have disappeared after that first incident if he did, since he DEFINITELY disappeared when he found himself caught red-handed in the spotlight! And Angelo wanted to be able to solidly refute any alibis Tony would surely try to concoct, even though to simply witness a criminal act is sufficient to file a legitimate criminal complaint. FYI:I drove by Tony's house for the simple purpose of looking for a vehicle that matched the plate number Angelo obtained at the scene. And as I have already stated, it eventually showed up in his driveway.
Water over the dam, nothing will come of the whole thing now anyway. Angelo should have called the RPD, State Troopers, Sheriff's, and the news media. Running around the streets of Rotterdam in the middle of the night wasn't the answer.
You're accusing somebody of theft Gadfly. And instead of reporting it to the authorities, you are posting it on a message board. I understand that Jasenski was the former chief of police in Rotterdam. The call still should have been made. And if you thought nothing would be done you should have recorded the call. You missed the step in reporting the crime. Now it's too late. It just looks like a political ploy to smear Jasenski.
Yes I am, but it's not for me to report it to the authorities, as I am not the one who witnessed it. And I AGREE with you - I also think Angelo should have filed a complaint. I assure you this is no political ploy. Believe me, if anyone had told me just six or seven months ago that TONY JASENSKI would do any of the things I've seen in his current campaign, I would have told them they needed to have their head examined! But this campaign has exposed his true colors, and I'm not just referring to the theft of Angelo's signs. Tony is doing a perfectly good job of smearing himself, all by himself.
Yes I am, but it's not for me to report it to the authorities, as I am not the one who witnessed it.
But it's for you to post it on a message board. Posting the make, model, and licence plate number of Jasenski's vehicle, along with the time you drove by his house. Do you understand how looney you sound???? Did Angelo give you the O.K. to post this information on this forum?? If he did, he's stupid. If he didn't, he should run away from you a.s.a.p. Gadfly, you guys in the republican party have to stay above the fray. This incident should have never been posted publicly, unless the criminal activity was reported. I don't see how this advances Mr. Santabarbara's position. It just lowered him down to political mudslinger.
The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is apt to spread discontent among those who are. ~ H.L. Mencken
But it's for you to post it on a message board. Posting the make, model, and licence plate number of Jasenski's vehicle, along with the time you drove by his house. Do you understand how looney you sound???? Did Angelo give you the O.K. to post this information on this forum?? If he did, he's stupid. If he didn't, he should run away from you a.s.a.p. Gadfly, you guys in the republican party have to stay above the fray. This incident should have never been posted publicly, unless the criminal activity was reported. I don't see how this advances Mr. Santabarbara's position. It just lowered him down to political mudslinger.
There's a big difference between the authorities and these message boards. The signs are not MY property to report stolen, and I did not witness the theft myself. And may I remind you, that YOU are the one who brought up the license plate - I was merely explaining how the whole thing unfolded. May I also remind you that that is what these boards are for - to discuss anything we want - not what you think we should or shouldn't discuss. And the reason you don't see how this "advances" Angelo's position is because it was not MEANT to advance his position. How could Tony's pathetic behavior possibly advance anything except for Tony's own desperation?
May I also remind you that that is what these boards are for - to discuss anything we want - not what you think we should or shouldn't discuss. And the reason you don't see how this "advances" Angelo's position is because it was not MEANT to advance his position.
You can discuss anything you'd like. I'm just going to remind everybody that this is nothing more than Rotterdam gossip. I'm also going to give my opinion, that I believe it's a political loser posting that bit of gossip. Let's remember what you posted......Republican county legislative candidate chases democrat opponent around town in the middle of the night with video camera's in attempts to catch stealing political signs. No proof of stolen property. The police were never called. No official documented record of incident happening. If these unsubstantiated accusations were on a SCDC flyer as truths, republicans would be up in arms.
If it wasn't MEANT to advance Angelo's position, then it was MEANT to SMEAR his opponent.
The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is apt to spread discontent among those who are. ~ H.L. Mencken
I sent a letter to the Daily Gazette on Oct. 22nd calling for legislation re: Truth in Advertising in Political Campaigns. Of course, it hasn't been printed by the Publisher because the letter cites as an example a mailing that was sent by the Schenectady County Democratic Committee that contains deceptive and dishonest information re: the Republican candidates for the District 4 seats on the Schenectady County Legislature.
The incivility displayed in political campaigns causes concern to those of us who are interested in the manner in which candidates will govern. We are unable to discern, in many cases, the positions of the candidates on the issues.
I have found many of the signs that I placed in the Town of Duanesburg are missing. I do not know who is/are responsible, nor will I suggest the responsible party(ies) identy(ies). I am concerned, however, about the conduct of the Democratic candidates and/or party in this race. The amount of money that has been spent by the SCDC for the 12 to 15 mailings that I have received since the primary election raises question about the source of the vast investment of money. (I estimate that each of these mailings costs someone $4K to $5K.) The number of signs, many of which have been posted on peoples' lawns without the owners' permission and many others that are located on public property suggests that someone is spending a lot of money to further their agenda.
It is time for each of us to look at the positions of the candidates who are running for office. Further, we should demand that the election laws be adhered to and that penalties be charged for those who violate those laws. The rulings of the League of Women Voters Fair Campaign Practices Committee are helpful to those who learn of them. However, the uninformed public has no insight to the findings of this committee. Further, there are no consequences to the offending party(ies).
"If we can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them, they must become happy."
What a fiasco! And ya wonder why people won't run for political office!
As far as I'm concerned, it has become a charector issue for Jasenski, to stoop so low as to steal lawn signs (allegedly), and to do it himself. What was he thinking? And an X-police chief at that. Sad, if true. Santabarbara used poor judgement. If it was such a big deal, law enforcement should have been called...'for the record'.
Again...this is one example of why ya can't get new people to run for political office. We will just get the recycled ones, over and over!
You can discuss anything you'd like. I'm just going to remind everybody that this is nothing more than Rotterdam gossip. I'm also going to give my opinion, that I believe it's a political loser posting that bit of gossip. Let's remember what you posted......Republican county legislative candidate chases democrat opponent around town in the middle of the night with video camera's in attempts to catch stealing political signs. No proof of stolen property. The police were never called. No official documented record of incident happening. If these unsubstantiated accusations were on a SCDC flyer as truths, republicans would be up in arms.
If it wasn't MEANT to advance Angelo's position, then it was MEANT to SMEAR his opponent.
Call it anything you like Cicero. And based on Tony's witnessed actions, I'll call HIM anything I like: A desperate, pathetic, infantile thief. And yes, attempts were made to capture his criminal activity on video, AFTER WITNESSING HIM DO IT TWICE IN THE SAME NIGHT. And in case you haven't noticed, the SCDC has already circulated what seems to be an unlimited supply of untruths, distortions, etc., as they have nothing on either Angelo or Carolina. We could, however, discuss Tony's spineless non-actions since his days on the town board, which he conveniently omits from the flurry of trash appearing in our mailboxes every other day, right up to his present position: A puppet of the socialist county Kratz who indoctrinated him!
So I'll ask you once again: How could Tony's actions advance anything but his own desperation? No one has to smear Tony, he's doing that all by himself.
Ya know, Cicero, maybe you should just stop attempting to force your defense of Tony onto deaf ears that know better and just tell everyone: VOTE FOR JASENSKI!
Angelo followed him, attempting to confront Jasenski about his THEFT of Lazzari/Santabarbara signs, but Jasenski, being the former police officer that he is, was able to lose Angelo. Angelo is still out looking for him, and a GANG of us are going out to hunt down that desperate, pathetic thief!
Gadfly, you use very colorful language. Using all caps when refering to Jasenski as a THIEF. Also calling yourselves a GANG. And HUNTING DOWN the pathetic THIEF. It disturb's me to hear such language when talking about our future county legislator. Remember, one of these guys are going to be the county representative for Rotterdam in 2008. A former police chief and an engineer acting in such a manor. I guess I can only laugh to keep my sanity.
The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is apt to spread discontent among those who are. ~ H.L. Mencken
Just a note to Brad and the other members of this forum: We were informed at the hearing yesterday that the Fair Campaign Practices Committee is not actually a division of the League of Women Voters, although it appears on their website. They will be clarifying that on the League's website as soon as the woman who administers the site returns from maternity leave!
Although I have almost never voted for a democrat in my life, and do not plan to on Tuesday, I have personally known Tony Jasenski since he was a young child. Absent video evidence of the alleged theft, I would be reluctant- to say the least to believe it. Add to that, the fact that it appears that the "theft" was never reported to the state police, the sheriffs or the Rotterdam Police and I am very skeptical. I just dont understand why the police were not called. Yea, he was a police chief, but the state police are not going to risk their reputation to protect someone who would do something like that. Call the police, have them stop the car with signs and then this is a different story. Just my opinion though
Ya know, Cicero, maybe you should just stop attempting to force your defense of Tony onto deaf ears that know better and just tell everyone: VOTE FOR JASENSKI!
No, I believe people can make up their own minds. I don't tell anybody who to vote for. I just want to point out the pathetic state in which our local politics has become. I advocate nor defend either side.
Calling somebody a thief with no criminal record proving so is reprehensible. And I'm not going to let it go unchecked. You wanna cry foul when SCDC misrepresents your candidate, but when you attempt to do the same, you expect me to read it as the gospel. Not happening. Mr. Santabarbara should have never let you drag his good name into the gutter. Hopefully it won't cost him the election.
The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is apt to spread discontent among those who are. ~ H.L. Mencken
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