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By Chris Cillizza Reporter February 15 at 9:52 PM
A prominent Republican consultant — who isn’t working for any of the 2016 presidential candidates and has been right more times than I can count — said something that shocked me when we had lunch recently. He said that Sen. Ted Cruz (Tex.) had about the same odds of becoming the Republican presidential nominee as former Florida governor Jeb Bush.
Jaw-dropper, right? After all, the conventional wisdom is that Bush, the son and brother of presidents, is the Republican standard-bearer, while Cruz, a conservative’s conservative, is a factor, sure, but not someone who could actually win the nomination.
How, I asked the consultant, could he say such a thing? He explained it this way.
Think of the Republican field as a series of lanes. In this race, there are four of them: establishment, tea party, social conservative and libertarian. The four lanes are not of equal size: Establishment is the biggest, followed by tea party, social conservative and then libertarian.
Obviously, the fight for the top spot in the establishment lane is crowded, with Bush and possibly Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker leading at the moment. Ditto the social-conservative lane, with former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, Ben Carson and Rick Santorum pushing hard there. The libertarian lane is all Sen. Rand Paul’s, but, as I noted above, it’s still not that big.
This leaves the tea party lane, which is both relatively large and entirely Cruz’s. While Paul looked as though he might try to fight Cruz for supremacy in that lane at one time, it’s clear from his recent moves that the senator from Kentucky is trying to become a player in a bunch of lanes, including social conservative and establishment. So, Cruz is, without question, the dominant figure in the tea party lane.
What that means — particularly in the early stages of the primary process in places such as Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina — is that he will probably be able to win, place or show repeatedly, racking up enough strong-ish performances to keep going even as the establishment and social-conservative lanes thin out. (Cruz’s ability to raise money, which remains a question, is less important for him than it is for other candidates — especially those in the establishment lane. His people are going to be for him no matter how much — or little — communicating he does with them.)
The trick for Cruz, the consultant said, is to hang around long enough to be the preeminent figure not only in the tea party lane but also in the social-conservative lane. (Cruz is decidedly conservative on social issues and talks regularly on the campaign trail about his faith. ) The complicating figure in that consolidation effort is Huckabee, who is (a) likely to run, (b) an ordained Southern Baptist minister and (c) likely to be able to stay in the race for an extended period because of the number of early Southern primaries.
But let’s assume, for the sake of argument, that Cruz is able to outlast Huckabee (as well as Carson and Santorum). If you combine the tea party and social-conservative lanes, that’s a pretty wide berth for any candidate hoping to be the GOP nominee. Is it as wide as a consolidated establishment lane behind Bush or Walker or Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.)? No one knows just yet, but it’s probably pretty close.
So watch Cruz. The combination of his running room as the race’s one true tea party candidate, his debating and oratorical skills, and his willingness to always, on every issue, stake out the most conservative position make him a real threat.
The 10 candidates with the best chance of being the Republican candidate in 2016 are ranked below. The No. 1 candidate has the best shot as of today.
10. Indiana Gov. Mike Pence. Pence hasn’t ruled out a run, though he’s probably got to choose between running for president and reelection in 2016. One recent development: Pence expanded Medicaid in Indiana after negotiating some concessions from the Obama administration — though we’re not sure whether this would help or hurt him in 2016.
9. Huckabee. The former Arkansas governor is giving every indication he is running. If he does, he will be a factor because of his strong following among social conservatives. An NBC-Marist poll released Sunday showed him on top of the field in Iowa.
8. Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal. Jindal is the résumé candidate in the GOP field. He’s shown us little besides that, though, apart from occasionally tossing some red meat to the conservative base. The latest example: not backing down from his comments on “no-go zones” for non-Muslims in Europe.
6. (tie) Cruz. See above. Remember that although he is roundly derided by his colleagues — Democrats and Republicans — in the Senate, he may be closer to how the GOP base feels on most issues than anyone else running.
6. (tie) Ohio Gov. John Kasich. After lying dormant for a few months after his convincing 2014 reelection victory, Kasich will spend two days this week in South Carolina. That trip will spark some buzz about whether he will run, but Kasich may have waited too long — Walker, another Midwestern governor from a swing state, is on the rise.
5. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie. Increasingly, it’s looking as if Christie missed his window for running for president in 2012. A new Rutgers-Eagleton poll shows that his favorable rating in New Jersey has dropped to 37 percent — after topping out at nearly 70 percent. And it’s not just his home state. Polls of likely GOP voters in Iowa and New Hampshire show that he is the most unliked Republican not named Donald Trump.
4. Paul. Speaking of people whose stock is dropping, the senator’s vaccine comments continue to baffle us — especially because he continues to play the victim card. Yes, there is a segment of the GOP that probably likes the idea that Paul is taking on the “liberal media.” But there’s also a much bigger portion of the party that will look at his vaccine flap and see Ron Paul 2.0.
3. Rubio. Yes, his path to the nomination is complicated by Bush’s all-but-announced candidacy. But if Republican voters are looking for a fresh face who could, theoretically, expand the party’s appeal, then Rubio could be the dark horse in the race.
2. Walker. The Wisconsin governor is clearly ascendant right now, thanks in large part to his strong speech at an Iowa confab a few weekends ago. His ham-handed handling of an evolution question, however, and his decision not to answer questions in London during a trade mission are not good signs.
1. Bush. The former Florida governor remains the top dog , and he got a big break when Mitt Romney opted not to run. Bush probably would have remained No. 1 even if Romney had got in, but the 2012 nominee’s exit makes Bush the obvious choice for GOP establishment types — read: big donors — to rally around.
Aaron Blake contributed to this column.



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It's close, but WaPo is fooling itself if it thinks Bush is going to even come close to winning the nomination. I don't care how much money he raises....Nobody is putting another Bush in office.

You can stick him at #4 with Paul getting pushed down to 5th and so on and Walker getting the nod.

We can do the Dem side, but so far it's...well...looking like a total disaster at this point with the only 'big' names even considering are Clinton, Kerry, and Biden.




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Walker doesn't look that bad...deserves a more in-depth look.


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Ranking the 2016 Republican field:


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Ranking the 2016 Republican field:


Hold on...Let me post the Democratic field...

The names are....





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Hold on...Let me post the Democratic field...

The names are....



Seems kind of a missmatch huh?
Hillary and Bill will crush the entire GOP Clown Car.


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Walker doesn't look that bad...deserves a more in-depth look.


That will be a decision up to you. There is no doubt in anybody's mind that this guy is a true leader.





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Seems kind of a missmatch huh?
Hillary and Bill will crush the entire GOP Clown Car.


LOL....One trick pony.





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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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A new Suffolk University poll in New Hampshire finds:
Jeb Bush 19%,
Scott Walker 14%,
Rand Paul  7%,
Donald Trump 6%,
Ted Cruz 5%
Chris Christie at 5%.

LOL @ PAUL & TRUMP... Rand Paul leads the Donald by 1%!


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A new Suffolk University poll in New Hampshire finds:
Jeb Bush 19%,
Scott Walker 14%,
Rand Paul  7%,
Donald Trump 6%,
Ted Cruz 5%
Chris Christie at 5%.

LOL @ PAUL & TRUMP... Rand Paul leads the Donald by 1%!


I love it, in fact I want to see it Hillary vs Jeb, I want to see voter turnout get below 25%, this might actually do it and prove once and for all what a sham the system is.



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I love it, in fact I want to see it Hillary vs Jeb, I want to see voter turnout get below 25%, this might actually do it and prove once and for all what a sham the system is.



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Nobody will ever deprive the American people of the right to vote except the American
people themselves and the only way they could do this is by not voting.

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To make democracy work, we must be a notion of participants, not simply observers.
One who does not vote has no right to complain.
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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Yeah Henry...if Wall Street picks Hillary and Jeb as your choices  for president, and you don't vote for the choices you are given, you can't complain!


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Yeah Henry...if Wall Street picks Hillary and Jeb as your choices  for president, and
you don't vote for the choices you are given, you can't complain!


Of course he, and other non voters can complain... It's pretty much all they do in the process.


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Former New York Gov. George Pataki (R) is likely to run for president, Bloomberg reports.

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Said Pataki: “If you care about the country, it’s very hard to sit on the sideline if you believe you have the
ability to run a government like this country’s well. At this point, I am strongly inclined to do it.”
He added: “If I were a betting person, I would bet that I’d make the decision to go.”

Pataki would be much better than the rest of the field so far.


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