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Planned Parenthood knows their costs.  They've done millions of abortions.  I read a story where blood banks charge hospitals $229 per pint, and that covers the cost of getting the blood, testing the blood, and storing the blood.  It's a flat fee.  Not a negotiated price.  

Planned Parenthhod executives in these videos were negotiating prices per organ.  A "menu" of organs as the one executive called it.  The fact that they were even negotiating prices to cover the fixed expenses is what is damning.


Watch the video... not the edited one, and you will see that it was the Scummy Video Maker who told
pp they should charge more... pp declined.
They only wanted to recoup their costs.  


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How is it that you understand that laws don't stop actions, but you still believe more gun laws regulating legal guns will stop gun crimes?

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New York Times: “With help from a well-funded, well-researched and invigorated anti-abortion
movement, Republican politicians have refined how they are talking about pregnancy and
abortion rights, choosing their words in a way they hope puts Democrats on the defensive.”

“The goal, social conservatives say, is to shift the debate away from the
‘war on women’ paradigm that has proved so harmful to their party’s image.”


(And the centerpiece of this campaign is a fake video)


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Can a woman get pregnant and have an abortion for the sole purpose of donating the fetal organs?  


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Can a woman get pregnant and have an abortion for the sole purpose of donating the fetal organs?  


It happens all the time Cicero!!!
Doesn't it?  
No???
Why not?


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It happens all the time Cicero!!!
Doesn't it?  
No???
Why not?


With advances in medicine, and the opportunity to cure diseases using fetal stem cells, it's not out of the relm of possibility that a woman can produce a fetus with the hopes of curing something like her own kidney disease.  

It may not be feasible now, but it may be in the future.  That's why they are researching using fetal stem cells.  To cure the living.


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With advances in medicine, and the opportunity to cure diseases using fetal stem cells, it's not out of the relm of possibility that a woman can produce a fetus with the hopes of curing something like her own kidney disease.  

It may not be feasible now, but it may be in the future.  That's why they are researching using fetal stem cells.  To cure the living.


When you consider that more than half of all pregnancies end in a spontaneous abortion
maybe there should be more done on fetal stem cell research.

I wonder if these Right Winger Anti Choicers have a funeral for their "baby" when a 4 day old fetus
spontaneously aborts?
How about a 2 week fetus or even a 6 week fetus?



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When you consider that more than half of all pregnancies end in a spontaneous abortion
maybe there should be more done on fetal stem cell research.

I wonder if these Right Winger Anti Choicers have a funeral for their "baby" when a 4 day old fetus
spontaneously aborts?
How about a 2 week fetus or even a 6 week fetus?



No opinion on the hypothetical of aborting to harvest fetal organs to cure a disease the mother may have?  Fetal stem cell research is to cure disease isn't it?  So if science is able to grow kidneys out of fetal stem cells, is it a mothers right to get pregnant and abort to harvest the stem cells that already contain half of her DNA?


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No opinion on the hypothetical of aborting to harvest fetal organs to cure a disease the mother may have?  Fetal stem cell research is to cure disease isn't it?  So if science is able to grow kidneys out of fetal stem cells, is it a mothers right to get pregnant and abort to harvest the stem cells that already contain half of her DNA?


LMAO!


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LMAO!


Trolling?  It's an ethical question to a situation that science will create if they succeed at curing diseases using fetal stem cells.  Do you think stem cell research will ultimately succeed at curing disease?  If you have faith in science and progress, then they will be able cure otherwise incurable diseases using fetal stem cells.  


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Trolling?  It's an ethical question to a situation that science will create if they succeed at curing diseases using fetal stem cells.  Do you think stem cell research will ultimately succeed at curing disease?  If you have faith in science and progress, then they will be able cure otherwise incurable diseases using fetal stem cells.  


If you actually are interested (and not just trolling) you can see that your question is irrelevant.
Stem cells, Redford research
http://www.bedfordresearch.org/stem-cell-research/stem-cell-research/stem-cell-faqs/#2


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LMAO!


Good duck box...LMAO.  

I understand how pro abortion advocates may get a little uncomfortable answering whether mothers can use the  fetal organs they are carrying and creating and aborting to use the stem cells to cure their own Parkinson's Disease.


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If you actually are interested (and not just trolling) you can see that your question is irrelevant.
Stem cells, Redford research
http://www.bedfordresearch.org/stem-cell-research/stem-cell-research/stem-cell-faqs/#2


Your link stated that fetal stem cells can be used in the medical therapy of adults.  They just need to figure out how to increase the supply. So can a woman create and abort a fetus for the purpose of her own therapy?

Can fetal stem cells repair adult organs and tissues?
-Possibly. There are currently several problems with the therapeutic use of fetal stem cells.

First, fetal tissue research is highly controversial. There are significant moral and ethical issues with the use of fetal tissues for research purposes. Second, the numbers of stem cells in fetal tissues may not be sufficient for the therapeutic needs of adults. Thus, methods need to be developed to greatly expand the supply of fetal stem cells if they are to be therapeutically useful. Third, tissue rejection problems similar to those encountered in kidney and heart transplants may limit the usefulness of fetal stem cells.


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Your link stated that fetal stem cells can be used in the medical therapy of adults.  They just need to figure out how to increase the supply. So can a woman create and abort a fetus for the purpose of her own therapy?

Can fetal stem cells repair adult organs and tissues?
-Possibly. There are currently several problems with the therapeutic use of fetal stem cells.

First, fetal tissue research is highly controversial. There are significant moral and ethical issues with the use of fetal tissues for research purposes. Second, the numbers of stem cells in fetal tissues may not be sufficient for the therapeutic needs of adults. Thus, methods need to be developed to greatly expand the supply of fetal stem cells if they are to be therapeutically useful. Third, tissue rejection problems similar to those encountered in kidney and heart transplants may limit the usefulness of fetal stem cells.


There is a growing supply of embryos which have been fertilized to be used in insemination.  
Often only one or two of these test tube embryos are used and the majority are discarded.
(NOTE: Cicero's definition... "These are babies living in petri dishes")
Most of this "TISSUE" is flushed and not used for research.  I would find no objection
for a woman to harvest her eggs in this manner to be used to save her own life.


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