There is no need for the vote in the first place. There are 2 ambulance services available in the town for use and just because one can't produce enough income to stay in business is no reason to place the burden on the taxpayer. That's the way capitalism works make enough money to pay your bills or go bankrupt.

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There is no need for the vote in the first place. There are 2 ambulance services available in the town for use and just because one can't produce enough income to stay in business is no reason to place the burden on the taxpayer. That's the way capitalism works make enough money to pay your bills or go bankrupt.

You are making too much sense here shadow. The liberal socialists don't think about the already over burdened taxpayers. They go out and scare the b'Jesus out of the rotterdam seniors, leading them to believe that they will die unless they pay more taxes! That is the most absurd thing I've ever heard. Hey....how are the seniors doing in the rest of the county where mohawk is the only ambulance service? Are they all dead yet?????

And yet these liberal socialists will promote obamacare where you WILL IN FACT suffer and die sooner than later due to their regulations!!! These people are NUTS!!! It truly is a mental disorder!

The ones with the "mental disorder" are the ones who constantly spout negativity and think everything is
a conspiracy.

If you are so certain that a majority of town property owners do NOT want REMS or an ambulance tax
district -- then why are you so upset about a referendum ?????  

The fact is that the posters in here who oppose REMS and the ambulance tax district do NOT really believe
in democratic value -- do not really believe in majority rule -- they would prefer that THEY were in charge
and issuing the marching orders for everyone else to follow.  

I applaud the Town Board for respecting democratic values and majority rule by putting the issue up for
a referendum.    

Then we will see if the Perpetual Negativity Choir actually has a majority of the people behind them or, if
as I believe, they are just blowing smoke out of their back ends.

Ron you say I applaud the Town Board for respecting democratic values and majority rule by putting the issue up for
a referendum.  

The only person that has said anything close to standing up for democratic principles is Frank Salamone. He was quoted again in the paper today saying that all residents should vote. THAT is the democratic process Ron. Limiting voting rights to landowners brings back memories of voting rights being enjoyed by rich land-owning white males only. That is unacceptable Ron.

For everyone that has forgotten, here is the video of Salamone arguing for letting everyone vote the last time this was brought up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys3PxInjeGU&feature=player_embedded

My question is still unanswered by the one making the arguments:

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So, they're getting $120,000 / yr from the town now. IF this tax passes, they're going to get twice as much ($240,000).  I thought they weren't operating in the red now? If that's true, what do they need a 100% increase in stipend for?

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Ron you say I applaud the Town Board for respecting democratic values and majority rule by putting the issue up for
a referendum.  

The only person that has said anything close to standing up for democratic principles is Frank Salamone. He was quoted again in the paper today saying that all residents should vote. THAT is the democratic process Ron. Limiting voting rights to landowners brings back memories of voting rights being enjoyed by rich land-owning white males only. That is unacceptable Ron.

For everyone that has forgotten, here is the video of Salamone arguing for letting everyone vote the last time this was brought up.

You know that there are many folks who post on this website who have said .. and continue to
say that there should be NO referendum at all.    They just want to give the contract to Mohawk
Ambulance WITHOUT a vote.

My opinion is that the residents of the town should be able to vote --- and the Town Board is
giving them the opportunity to vote in the referendum.  THUS .. the Town Board is respecting
democratic values by at least putting it up for a referendum.

As to the issue of who can vote and how many polling sites -- if you go back to the Spring 2010
.. you will find that I, too  ... spoke at Town Board meetings and said that   a) there should be
more than one polling place,  b) absentee ballots should be allowed, and c) all of the registered
voters should be allowed to vote.

Unfortunately, I am not on the Town Board myself nor was I in a position last night to be able
to speak on the issue.

No the people who post here just want REMS to compete on an even basis with Mohawk without taxpayer help and the best service wins.

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No the people who post here just want REMS to compete on an even basis with Mohawk without taxpayer help and the best service wins.

I agree, and I say this...  if anyone on here (whether accused of it previously or not) IS John Mertz or any of the other residents that ran under the No New Tax Party last November and they still have some of the No New Tax Party signs that dotted the landscape, it's time to dust them off and start putting them all around town.

Kevin March--the NNTP was a waste of time.  Nothing of substance came from that action.  Those running looked like sour grapes.  They back-stabbed eachother.  And Mertz was the wrst of them alwith Littlefield a close second.

Bringing back the NNTP insures the town will stay in Democratic hands for the foreseeable future.  Not something I'd support, it fractured Republicans too much.

Yes MT that is true.  That was the only good thing I could say about those antics.

MT the Rep party has done a super job of fracturing themselves without anyones help.

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MT the Rep party has done a super job of fracturing themselves without anyones help.

I totally agree - but the NNTP didn't help things either.

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No the people who post here just want REMS to compete on an even basis with Mohawk without taxpayer help and the best service wins.

and the people will have the chance to decide on December 14 whether they want to maintain a
vital public service like REMS through a tax district or  put our lives and our loved ones lives in
the hands of a corporation

DVOR you just don't grasp the concept that REMS became a business when they decided to accept a salary for their services and in doing so run the same risks as any other business does. I was on the volunteer ambulance squad as an EMT for 6 yrs until they went to a paid system and know the inner workings of their system. As part of the training we had to ride with Mohawk and assist for an 8 hr shift and they are a very good ambulance service. If the demand for more than one ambulance is evident there would be another one assigned to the area. Mohawk operates as a business and that's why they don't need a government hand out to stay in business and REMS should do the same.