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DemocraticVoiceOfReason
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On May 31, 2012 - Paul Tonko voted AGAINST H.R.3541: Prenatal Nondiscrimination Act (PRENDA) of 2012 which would have banned Sex Selection Abortion.  Thus, our congressman joined his fellow, extremist liberal, NARAL funded members of Congress in allowing our nation to continue the human right atrocity of unrestricted abortion.  
Opposition to PRENDA should be a warning signal to ALL women,  Most sex selection abortions are carried out to end the life of a female human baby in the mother's womb.  
Remember to vote for candidates who will stand up for human and civil rights of our nation's most vulnerable human citizens.  
Vote for Jim Fischer for Congress on November 4.


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Remember to vote for candidates who will stand up for human and civil rights of our nation's most vulnerable human citizens.  
Vote for Jim Fischer for Congress on November 4.


Well, I was going to vote for Jim, because he's been a friend of mine for years, but your extremism is kinda talking me out of it.

Over 65% of all Americans are pro-choice.

You want a minority belief to be used as a weapon against those who do not share your beliefs.


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Well, I was going to vote for Jim, because he's been a friend of mine for years, but your extremism is kinda talking me out of it.

Over 65% of all Americans are pro-choice.

You want a minority belief to be used as a weapon against those who do not share your beliefs.




You are most definitely NOT a supporter of liberty if you are pro-choice.

That you - by your own admission - easily led by the nose based on a supposed public opinion poll doesn't say much for your judgement.  Personal Liberty and the Right to Life should not be revocable by a public opinion poll nor by a law passed by the government nor by a decision of a judicial body nor because a left-wing extremist candidate gets a boat load of $$ from special interest groups.

A May 2014 Gallup says U.S. Still Split on Abortion: 47% Pro-Choice, 46% Pro-Life and several national polls show that American support a ban on later term abortion 2 to 1.  


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From DVOR's quoted Gallup Poll:

A Whopping 78% say that abortion should be legal, or legal
under certain circumstances!!!
Only 21% say abortion should be illegal.




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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You are most definitely NOT a supporter of liberty if you are pro-choice.

That you - by your own admission - easily led by the nose based on a supposed public opinion poll doesn't say much for your judgement.  Personal Liberty and the Right to Life should not be revocable by a public opinion poll nor by a law passed by the government nor by a decision of a judicial body nor because a left-wing extremist candidate gets a boat load of $$ from special interest groups.




Personal liberty has no place coming from the hand of the government.

You want a government that decides what is best for all persons.

That is by definition not personal liberty.

You think that because in your own mind that you are right, that it somehow gives you rights over other people's choices.

Pro-choice, personal freedom and personal responsibility are things to be judged by God.

You are not a God.

Invoking the laws of God is a sin.

You are not allowed to judge the world for God.



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New York
Nay    D     Bishop, Timothy  NY 1st  
Nay    D     Israel, Steve  NY 2nd  
Yea    R     King, Pete  NY 3rd  
Nay    D     McCarthy, Carolyn  NY 4th  
Nay    D     Ackerman, Gary  NY 5th  
Nay    D     Meeks, Gregory  NY 6th  
Nay    D     Crowley, Joseph  NY 7th  
Nay    D     Nadler, Jerrold  NY 8th  
Yea    R     Turner, Robert  NY 9th  
Nay    D     Towns, Ed  NY 10th  
Nay    D     Clarke, Yvette  NY 11th  
No Vote    D     Velázquez, Nydia  NY 12th  
Yea    R     Grimm, Michael  NY 13th  
Nay    D     Maloney, Carolyn  NY 14th  
No Vote    D     Rangel, Charles  NY 15th  
Nay    D     Serrano, José  NY 16th  
Nay    D     Engel, Eliot  NY 17th  
Nay    D     Lowey, Nita  NY 18th  
Nay    R     Hayworth, Nan  NY 19th  
Yea    R     Gibson, Christopher  NY 20th  
Nay    D     Tonko, Paul  NY 21st  
Nay    D     Hinchey, Maurice  NY 22nd  
Nay    D     Owens, William  NY 23rd  
Nay    R     Hanna, Richard  NY 24th  
Yea    R     Buerkle, Ann Marie  NY 25th  
Nay    D     Hochul, Kathleen  NY 26th  
Nay    D     Higgins, Brian  NY 27th  
No Vote    D     Slaughter, Louise  NY 28th  
Yea    R     Reed, Tom  NY 29th


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Quoted from Box A Rox
From DVOR's quoted Gallup Poll:

A Whopping 78% say that abortion should be legal, or legal
under certain circumstances!!!
Only 21% say abortion should be illegal.




... and by a 2 to 1 margin they said that late term abortions should be banned -- Cecilia Tkaczyk wants late term abortion  (you know where they rip apart the baby's body in the womb and then suck it out piece by piece) to be enshrined as a right in New York State.  
Many "pro-choice" people disagree with Tkaczyk.

Furthermore-- Tkaczyk is holding the rest of the Equality for Women Act hostage to her insistence on having unlimited abortion on demand.  If she really gave a damn about women's right, she let the other 9 parts of the bill be passed into law.  Unfortunately, she is an extremist, NARAL funded advocate for the Pro-Death position just like her mentor who serves in the House of Representatives.


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china aborts based on sex.....and the way everything is being regulated and legislated here....I'm not surprised


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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china aborts based on sex.....and the way everything is being regulated and legislated here....I'm not surprised


Exactly -- and Paul Tonko apparently thinks that abortion for sex selection is a good thing.  Interestingly, international human rights organizations consider abortion for sex selection to be a human rights violation.  Furthermore, the vast majority of these abortions involve the killing of female babies in the mother's womb --- so -- evidently Paul Tonko really doesn't believe in the most important right for women ----- the right to life.  


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Exactly -- and Paul Tonko apparently thinks that abortion for sex selection is a good thing.  Interestingly, international human rights organizations consider abortion for sex selection to be a human rights violation.  Furthermore, the vast majority of these abortions involve the killing of female babies in the mother's womb --- so -- evidently Paul Tonko really doesn't believe in the most important right for women ----- the right to life.  


Once again, you only have the right to your own life.

You don't have the right to control other people's beliefs.

Abortion is the law of the land.

It is not unconstitutional.

You are seeking to enact unconstitutional laws to implement your extremist agenda.

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I personally am pro-life....not pro-death.
however...I really don't give a rata's a$$ if it's law or not.
I don't vote....so it don't matter much to me....they are ALL jerks!!!
Everyone can make their own choices and deal with the consequences when they die....IF there is a God, that is!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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tonko can't decide if his parents/mother/father made the right choice so he's confused....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Quoted from bumblethru

I don't vote.




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Quoted from bumblethru
I personally am pro-life....not pro-death.
however...I really don't give a rata's a$$ if it's law or not.
I don't vote....so it don't matter much to me....they are ALL jerks!!!
Everyone can make their own choices and deal with the consequences when they die....IF there is a God, that is!


First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the babies in their mother's womb, and I did not speak out --
Then they came for the elderly, the disabled, etc

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


Unfortunately, you are like so many living in Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia and choosing to ignore the plight of others.   Extremists (like Tonko and Tkacyzk on abortion) are able to sell "The Big Lie" precisely because of the apathy of folks like you or the fear of others to get involved.  I refuse to be apathetic and, quite honestly, there is absolutely nothing that Tonko and Tkaczyk can do to keep me silent on this issue.  Their views on abortion amount to supporting the worst form of child abuse, the most egregious form of human right abuse and pose a threat to the very foundation of God-given and our Constitutionally protected freedoms.

Tkaczyk and many others who share her extremist views will be defeated in 2014.  The rest will be on our list to defeat in 2016 and beyond.  Like the War on Terrorism, the Pro-Life Campaign may take years to achieve victory -- but ultimately it will achieve victory.


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When Science finds the "gay gene" and can determine it inside the womb, I'm interested to see how many 100% pro-choicers start thinking about exclusions...


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